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- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 04:30:08 PST
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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #96
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- Ham-Policy Digest Fri, 4 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 96
-
- Today's Topics:
- Have a say about ARRL policy
- HELP W/2 METER BAND PLAN
- Morse Whiners
- rec.dan.pickersgill.monologue
-
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-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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-
- Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 09:34:25 EST
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Have a say about ARRL policy
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- hlester@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (howard n lester) writes:
-
- > In article <1994Feb28.230819.12135@arrl.org>,
- > Ed Hare (KA1CV) <ehare@arrl.org> wrote:
- > >You can also usually find your Division Director at most major hamfests
- >
- > How much do they usually sell for?
- >
- > :)
- >
- Do you really want us to tell you what they are WORTH?
-
- :-)
-
-
- --
- "We are all now safe from crime. The Brady 'Law' has taken effect.
- All can sleep peacefully knowing our paternalistic government will
- take care and protect us! Of course I also believe in Santa Claus,
- The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy and The Great Pumpkin!"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Feb 94 05:43:03 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!ccnet.com!ccnet.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HELP W/2 METER BAND PLAN
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- James W. Jones (jjones@bigcat.missouri.edu) wrote:
-
- : Will someone please share with me the arrangement of the 2 meter band?
- : What I need the most is the portion of the band that is reserved for
- : simplex operation. I fear just selecting a random frequency to use as
- : a simplex channel as it may be part or a repeater pair. Part of the
- : band is reserved for simplex but I am not sure as to which part.
- : Appreciate any help on this.
- : Jim Jones K5GSH
- : jjones@bigcat.missouri.edu
-
- You might start with these frequencies for fm simplex in the 2meter band:
-
- 146.415
- 146.430
- 146.445
- 146.460
- 146.475
- 146.490
- 146.505
- 146.520 nationwide fm simplex calling frequency
- 146.535
- 146.550
- 146.565
- 146.580 may have packet
- 146.595
-
- 147.405
- 147.420
- 147.435
- 147.450
- 147.465
- 147.480
- 147.495
- 147.510
- 147.525
- 147.540
- 147.555
- 147.570
- 147.585
-
- These frequencies generally are used for simplex ... but local conditions
- and milage may vary. Almost any night of the week you will hear nets
- operating on one or more of these frequencies.
-
- Bob n6fri
-
-
- --
- Bob Wilkins bwilkins@cave.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 09:54:39 EST
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Morse Whiners
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- jmaynard@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
-
- > In article <1994Feb28.232131.12347@arrl.org>,
- > Ed Hare (KA1CV) <ehare@arrl.org> wrote:
- > >I love the sense of kinship that we all feel for each other, just
- > >because we are hams. We will survive code, or no code. I don't
- > >know if we will survive the division. Somehow, we will ultimately
- > >decide the fate of Morse code, as a community and as a Service.
- > >The way we go about that will shape our hobby more than the final
- > >outcome.
- >
- > Ed, that's just it: I think that to completely eliminate the code will destro
- > the amateur radio service. Period.
- >
- > Why do I think this? I need look no farther than the local two meter boxes,
- > which are now completely overrun with refugees from Channel 19. The quality o
- > the service has declined in the years since the no-code Tech was introduced.
- >
- > I'd be willing to put up with that if the promises of no-code advocates that
- > we'd see an influx of technical geniuses who would restore the service to its
- > glory days of technological innovation had been borne out. Instead, I have ye
- > to see a single technical innovation attributable to someone who has joined
- > the service purely because of the availability of the no-code Tech. Even the
- > most rabid of anti-code advocates have yet to be able to cite an instance.
-
- I have yet to hear ONE advance of coded hams in the last 20 years, not
- the 3 that the no-code license has been here. (The 1200 baud packet info
- super-dirt-road does not count as an inovation.)
-
- > People get nasty when things they hold dear are threatened. I'm not at all
- > surprised that the continuing no-code advocacy is producing heated reactions,
- > for they are doing exactly that.
- >
- > The no-code license is the Brady Act of ham radio: it's the camel's nose in
- > the tent of destroying the fundamentals of the service. Like the Brady Act, i
- > should be thrown out on its ear.
-
- Comparing the no-code license to the Brady Law is absurd in the extream.
-
-
- --
- "We are all now safe from crime. The Brady 'Law' has taken effect.
- All can sleep peacefully knowing our paternalistic government will
- take care and protect us! Of course I also believe in Santa Claus,
- The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy and The Great Pumpkin!"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 09:33:27 EST
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: rec.dan.pickersgill.monologue
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- Ed Ellers <edellers@delphi.com> writes:
-
- > Dan Pickersgill <dan@mystis.wariat.org> writes:
- >
- > >> Clearly wrong? How so. I did it, and thousands before me did it. Are you
- > >> saying that just because it requires effort, it shouldn't be an element?
- > >> Sounds like an appeal to laziness to me.
-
- Ed, please watch your quotes, I did not say the above. Thanks. 73,
-
-
- >
- > It is clearly wrong to require Morse knowledge for the use of other modes
- > because that knowledge does NOT contribute to more effective use of those
- > modes. THAT is my argument against the Morse test -- not that "I can't do it
- > not that "it isn't fair!," but that it simply is not RELEVANT knowledge (sinc
- > it is needed for only ONE of many possible modes) and therefore should not be
- > required.
- >
- > "I did it, and thousands before me did it" isn't a valid reason for keeping t
- > element; it says nothing about the need or desirability of such testing.
-
-
- --
- "We are all now safe from crime. The Brady 'Law' has taken effect.
- All can sleep peacefully knowing our paternalistic government will
- take care and protect us! Of course I also believe in Santa Claus,
- The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy and The Great Pumpkin!"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Feb 94 10:48:19 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!menudo.uh.edu!uuneo.NeoSoft.com!sugar.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2kr8hd$6ck@mercury.mcs.com>, <2krktk$g6e@sugar.neosoft.com>, <2krlr8$ggi@mercury.mcs.com>
- Subject : Re: Morse Whiners
-
- In article <2krlr8$ggi@mercury.mcs.com>,
- Bill Blum N9VLS <n9vls@MCS.COM> wrote:
- >In article <2krktk$g6e@sugar.neosoft.com>,
- >A great x ray technician! <xraytech@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:
- >>In article <2kr8hd$6ck@mercury.mcs.com>,
- >>Bill Blum N9VLS <n9vls@MCS.COM> wrote:
- >>
- >>>Where are we going? Planet 10! When are we going? Real Soon!
- >>
- >>Buckeroo Banzai!!!
- >
- >shhhhhhhhhh.
- >I'm cutting phasing cables for a DF antenna. You're bothering me.
-
- DFing stations on the USENET doesn't work too well. And, of course,
- I elect NOT to use Two Meters. Hummm...
-
- --
- "Meeting him, shaking his hand--it was overwhelming. It was better than sex.
- Of course, I haven't had sex before, but I'm sure this was better."
-
- --A Codeless Technician, after meeting Dan Pickersgill for the first time.
-
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